New Forbidden Science Dispatch? "Oh Boyle!" we're excited. After reading Elizondo's IMMINENT it seems like Kit Green makes an anonymous appearance in his story as well.
Good article as ever and you're covering ideas that aren't discussed anymore.
Green's a performer who, in my view, acted a part (like a Roger Kint) for decades and wove hoaxes and lore into all our UFO mindscapes. He played the rational Doubting Thomas foil to Puthoff's hacky mysterious insider character and shaped Vallee with their praise and rumours. They seemed to be playing him off like confederates in a three card Monte game. The FS journals Vol 2-3 have examples where the pair told him he was too smart to be tricked. Flattery is an easy method of recruitment and it's an open question if he unknowingly served a cause? Mark Pilkington wondered aloud if he was being deceived by Green whereas Vallee couldn't conceive of being tricked. Moreover, he appeared to assume that only others can be fooled which made him far more susceptible to stagecraft (if that's what it was).
Your examples of Green's work, and stature, in the Cold War IC go some way to contextualising his consistent links to sketchy stories. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of Leonard Stringfield's alien autopsy insiders because they mirrored the details in the 2001 Bigelow emails. He's been central and adjacent to so many large scale hoaxes that he could have been involved there too. Little vignettes suggest he tailored his stories for specific individuals and only a few are public.
You ask why he needed to, "Talk...to every ufologist worth his salt?" That's the black hole of uncertainty and a fast track to an aspirin. It can't be coincidence that his life's work in UFOs and the paranormal has consistently led to reputational damage and increased delusions in his targets. I'm down with your suspicion of the likeliest explanation being counterintelligence goals and we've no right to know anything about them. He hasn't operated in a vacuum and some of his known associates have personally gained from it all. More questions and more possibilities.
Vallee"...The realization came when I observed how easily they were fooled by others and fooled themselves...."
The irony is hilarious as he "co"-wrote that awful fiction "TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret" with permanent crack pot Paola Harris.
It would have taken only 5 minutes of reading the insane gibberish(Beta AI new age bot?) that Harris produces to realise she is a gullible, new age grifter who has never found a hoax she didn`t like.
It would have taken 15 minutes to realise the story was trash..
Yet he proceeded anyway..$? "fame"? Who knows..
I used to love Vallee`s work until the onset of dementia appeared to have started.
But what rankles me is, when presented with the evidence it was a hoax by Douglas Dean Johnson, Vallee did some minor corrections and stuck to the hoax.
I think dementia is probably unfair—even in the early journals there are certain cases widely considered hoaxes or unconvincing that Vallée finds compelling. I think he's mostly just an earnest believer, though I may be biased from spending so much time with his writing.
thanks..fair point.I too went down the rabbit hole of his diaries...the unusual metal testing that always turned into nothing or the "results" were never mentioned was "interesting". :)
New Forbidden Science Dispatch? "Oh Boyle!" we're excited. After reading Elizondo's IMMINENT it seems like Kit Green makes an anonymous appearance in his story as well.
Good article as ever and you're covering ideas that aren't discussed anymore.
Green's a performer who, in my view, acted a part (like a Roger Kint) for decades and wove hoaxes and lore into all our UFO mindscapes. He played the rational Doubting Thomas foil to Puthoff's hacky mysterious insider character and shaped Vallee with their praise and rumours. They seemed to be playing him off like confederates in a three card Monte game. The FS journals Vol 2-3 have examples where the pair told him he was too smart to be tricked. Flattery is an easy method of recruitment and it's an open question if he unknowingly served a cause? Mark Pilkington wondered aloud if he was being deceived by Green whereas Vallee couldn't conceive of being tricked. Moreover, he appeared to assume that only others can be fooled which made him far more susceptible to stagecraft (if that's what it was).
Your examples of Green's work, and stature, in the Cold War IC go some way to contextualising his consistent links to sketchy stories. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of Leonard Stringfield's alien autopsy insiders because they mirrored the details in the 2001 Bigelow emails. He's been central and adjacent to so many large scale hoaxes that he could have been involved there too. Little vignettes suggest he tailored his stories for specific individuals and only a few are public.
You ask why he needed to, "Talk...to every ufologist worth his salt?" That's the black hole of uncertainty and a fast track to an aspirin. It can't be coincidence that his life's work in UFOs and the paranormal has consistently led to reputational damage and increased delusions in his targets. I'm down with your suspicion of the likeliest explanation being counterintelligence goals and we've no right to know anything about them. He hasn't operated in a vacuum and some of his known associates have personally gained from it all. More questions and more possibilities.
Excellent as usual..
Vallee"...The realization came when I observed how easily they were fooled by others and fooled themselves...."
The irony is hilarious as he "co"-wrote that awful fiction "TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret" with permanent crack pot Paola Harris.
It would have taken only 5 minutes of reading the insane gibberish(Beta AI new age bot?) that Harris produces to realise she is a gullible, new age grifter who has never found a hoax she didn`t like.
It would have taken 15 minutes to realise the story was trash..
Yet he proceeded anyway..$? "fame"? Who knows..
I used to love Vallee`s work until the onset of dementia appeared to have started.
But what rankles me is, when presented with the evidence it was a hoax by Douglas Dean Johnson, Vallee did some minor corrections and stuck to the hoax.
Does dementia explain dishonesty?
https://douglasjohnson.ghost.io/crash-story-the-trinity-ufo-crash-hoax/
I think dementia is probably unfair—even in the early journals there are certain cases widely considered hoaxes or unconvincing that Vallée finds compelling. I think he's mostly just an earnest believer, though I may be biased from spending so much time with his writing.
thanks..fair point.I too went down the rabbit hole of his diaries...the unusual metal testing that always turned into nothing or the "results" were never mentioned was "interesting". :)